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The Dr. Phil Show

August 23, 2003

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dr. phil: "Thanks very much. Today we have on the show two guys who just can't get along, but who need to get along. Let's get into this. Sir, would you like to tell us who you are and a little bit about yourself?"

jacques chirac: "I am Jacques Chirac and I am President de la Republique."

dr. phil: "Uh huh."

chirac: "Of France?"

dr. phil: "Uh huh."

chirac: "Why are you only saying 'uh huh'? It is an important job, the president of France has."

dr. phil: "We like ourselves, don't we, Jack?"

chirac: "Pardon?"

dr. phil: "And with us here is my fellow Texan, President George W. Bush. How are you, Mr. President?"

george w. bush: "Doin' okay."

dr. phil: "Now we're gonna roll some tape in a moment, to give our viewers a background for the kind of conflict you two guys are enmeshed in right now, to maybe see how we can get some of that good feeling back. Can we go to the tape?"

bush: "How long is the tape, there, bud? Got about six minutes, then it's wheels up. Two stops today -- opening a U.S.-Israeli Friendship Center in Florida then jetting up to Dearborn for a U.S.-Iraqi Friendship Center opening. Or is it the other way around? Wait a sec . . ."

chirac: "You see here, Monsieur Docteur Phil, the problem. Always rush- rush! Rush the inspectors. Rush the U.N."

dr. phil: "Why are you talking to me?"

chirac: "What?"

dr. phil: "Why are you talking to me? Is your problem with me?"

chirac: "No."

dr. phil: "Who is your problem with?"

chirac: "It is with him."

dr. phil: "Does he have a name?"

chirac: "Yes."

dr. phil: "You see, the first thing we've got to get over is what I call the 'me-I-him' problem. You're the 'I,' you're the 'me,' and he's just a 'him.' Do you see what I'm saying?"

chirac: "You speak very quickly, Monsieur le Docteur."

dr. phil: "Look at him. Face him. All the way. Now look him in the eye."

chirac: "I do not wish to."

dr. phil: "Don't look at me. Look at him."

chirac: "He looks angry."

dr. phil: "I don't think he's angry."

chirac: "He is -- how you say? -- scowling. With a mean face. You see, he does not want this to be over. I try and I try and -- "

dr. phil: "Hold up, Jack. You're futurizing. Stay here now. Stay in this moment in time. I'm sure he's not angry, are you, Mr. President? Mr. President? Mr. President?"

bush: "Hmmmm?"

dr. phil: "Mr. President, what are you doing?"

bush: "Havin' a Power Bar and thinking about Kim Jong Il."

dr. phil: "Can you try to be present here, please?"

bush: "Can we pick up the pace, then? I'm doin' this for Tony Blair, okay? But I've got, like, four minutes -- no, make that three minutes."

dr. phil: "Jack, look at George."

chirac: "I am."

dr. phil: "In the eye."

chirac: "Yes, all right."

dr. phil: "What do you want to tell him?"

chirac: "That I think we two should be -- "

dr. phil: "You're talking to me. Talk to him. To him. Say 'George . . .'"

chirac: "Georges . . ."

dr. phil: "I am so very sorry . . ."

chirac: "I am so very sorry . . ."

dr. phil: ". . . to have betrayed you and lied to you and helped the Iraqis and everything."

chirac: ". . . to have betrayed you and lied to you and helped the Iraqis and everything."

dr. phil: "And I promise . . ."

chirac: "And I promise . . ."

dr. phil: ". . . to be a better friend in the future."

chirac: ". . . to be a better friend in the future."

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dr. phil: "How do you feel?"

chirac: "Like a woman."

dr. phil: "Good! Good! That's a big start."

chirac: "Now him."

dr. phil: "Mr. President, I want you to look at Jack. I want you to face him. And I want you to tell him how you feel."

bush: "He knows how I feel."

chirac: "You see? You see what I must put up with?"

dr. phil: "Take his hand, Mr. President."

bush: "You've got to be kidding. Are you sure you're from Texas?"

dr. phil: "Take his hand and say, 'Jack, I know that you had reasons for what you did, but you hurt me and you broke the trust between us, and it's going to take time to get us back where we were, but I'm willing to take the first step today, here, right now.'"

chirac: "Where is he going?"

dr. phil: "Mr. President?"

bush: "Really tight schedule, sorry. Nice to see y'all!"

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